tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-925549664214256461.post8925658055572718159..comments2024-03-24T17:49:05.886-04:00Comments on The Robert Moss BLOG: A mythic view of what drives men to warMarcia Mosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04530003059608361331noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-925549664214256461.post-65791420385998371652010-02-04T17:04:39.167-05:002010-02-04T17:04:39.167-05:00Ah, but surely that is not the nature of the battl...Ah, but surely that is not the nature of the battle described in the Bhagavad Gita, one of the greatest sacred texts, which counsels us to live in the world - and fight when fighting is necessary - without ever losing our sense of right and our connection with divine purpose. Remember that the hero Arjuna, offered the choice of Krishna's vast armies, or Krisha alone to serve as his charioteer, has chosen Krishna. Scorning worldly might, he puts the chariot of his soul in right hands. Your question leads me to suggest that both of us should read the Gita again (it's impossible to read it too many times, in my opinion) and see how it speaks to us in the midst of the issues around us today.Robert Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231870716685877709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-925549664214256461.post-86162273402130624902010-02-04T10:03:17.663-05:002010-02-04T10:03:17.663-05:00Thanks, Robert, for your usual mythic vision. I fi...Thanks, Robert, for your usual mythic vision. I find the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna's "sermon" to Arjuna,convincing him to engage in the battle to end mankind, very troubling. Any insights?Lou Hagoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305118496364707764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-925549664214256461.post-76650029821009571752010-02-04T05:18:18.696-05:002010-02-04T05:18:18.696-05:00What an interesting and disturbing vision, Fran. A...What an interesting and disturbing vision, Fran. As if you were seeing into an "understory" behind the surface events of our world.Robert Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231870716685877709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-925549664214256461.post-19245796614841343052010-02-03T20:48:48.939-05:002010-02-03T20:48:48.939-05:00This is a very strong idea, Robert, and it brought...This is a very strong idea, Robert, and it brought back a vivid experience I had of the real world of politics and the mythic realm of story becoming congruent. Immediately following the US presidential election of 2004 I was driving to work one day listening to a recording of Greek myths, and I had the sickening feeling that the story of King Minos was being played out in the election, the White Bull had been given to the winner to sacrifice for the good of all, but decided that the gift was too valuable to return to Poseidon. I had a clear vision of how it was going to play out with the new Minotaur slaying the children who were to be sacrificed. It literally made me so sick that I was in bed for nearly four days. There's power there, and danger, I suppose.franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10236289243440599897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-925549664214256461.post-71472501585023354532010-02-03T19:55:53.764-05:002010-02-03T19:55:53.764-05:00I am reading a book at the moment called The Tibet...I am reading a book at the moment called The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep and I was impressed by the following words, that brought to mind the recent, astonishingly callous performance of Tony Blair at the British inquiry into the Iraq war.<br /><br />"Demi-god Realm<br /><br />Pride is the principal affliction of the demi-gods. Pride is a feeling connected to accomplishment and is often territorial. One cause of war is the pride of individuals and nations that believe they have the solution to other people's problems."<br /><br />Does that not sound appropriate when describing the actions of Blair and Bush? The two demi-gods of our recent past.<br /><br />The author goes on to say:<br /><br />"The demi-gods enjoy pleasure and abundance but they tend toward envy and wrath. They continually fight with one another, but their greatest suffering occurs when they declare war on the gods, who enjoy even greater abundance than the demi-gods. The gods are more powerful and very difficult to kill. They always win the wars, and the demi-gods suffer the emotional devastation of wounded pride and envy in which they feel diminished and which, in turn drives them into futile wars again and again."Worldbridgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02411263354180821936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-925549664214256461.post-23056554740566122792010-02-03T11:52:44.274-05:002010-02-03T11:52:44.274-05:00"Ambassadors between gods" - an interest..."Ambassadors between gods" - an interesting assignment for conscious dreamers, Justin!<br /><br />One of the interesting things about dreaming is that it introduces us to mythic realms and cross-cultural traditions that it is timely for us to explore and remember.Robert Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231870716685877709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-925549664214256461.post-64125226463393153912010-02-03T08:52:38.461-05:002010-02-03T08:52:38.461-05:00This post brings up an idea I come back to from ti...This post brings up an idea I come back to from time to time, namely that gods, with capital or lower case "g's", are local. Now I suppose many have gone global. It makes me wonder if these various forms are just masks that these multidimensional entities put on. The example you gave at the end seems to suggest that these may be two forms of a being who goes by the same name. Perhaps, in addition to having ambassadors between our physical political functionaries, we need ambassadors between the gods. These could be people of an ecumenical nature trained in the arts of conscious dreaming. Again, this ties in thematically with a recent idea my brain has been chewing on, how we need speakers for the earth, and those speakers would have to be "localized" so they can get to know a place intimately. I don't claim this ideas as original to me, just what I've been engaged in.Justin Patrick Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13354354033674548466noreply@blogger.com